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KKubesh
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:32 am Post subject: Eagle Feather also known as the Arch Oboler House |
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I am currently in a course and I would like to construct the building in 3D, which I don't think was every constructed for Arch Oboler. It has been my understanding as time passed Arch Oboler settled with the Gate House and his wife's retreat. The building I am curious about I have seen featured a number of times, but no plans. The link to the image I am referencing is http://www.poster-bargains.com/giant/824212.php . Does anyone have or know any information on this building? I would even love to just get more views of this structure.
I am limited on time for the course, but I have gained a lot of personal interest in this structure, so please feel free to post well after this chat was posted.
Thank you in advance. |
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Reidy
Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 960 Location: Northern CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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The floor plan has been published somewhere. I've seen it here on Wright Chat.
The FLlW Foundation archive in Scottsdale has been willing, at least in the past, to sell photocopies of drawings for copying costs. |
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KKubesh
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject: Talesin West |
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Thanks Reidy for the information.
I was able to get a hold of the shop there and they said had plans of one house (they didn't specify which one). The cost is about $500 dollars... I will continue looking through the different post to see if I can spot it. |
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SDR
Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 8022 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Here are plates 380, 384, and 385 from Monograph 6:
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John
Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 263
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:44 pm Post subject: Oboler |
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| Don't go through the shop, go to the Archives.[/u] |
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KKubesh
Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:53 am Post subject: Thanks! |
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SDR, thank you so much for taking the time to get these to me. May I ask where you got these from, is there more available?
I am really excited to start working on this project now. Thanks again. |
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SDR
Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 8022 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:33 am Post subject: |
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These images are found in "Frank Lloyd Wright Monograph 1937-1941," which is volume 6 in the series. These books were published in the 1980s by A.D.A. EDITA, Tokyo. Volume Six appeared in 1986. The contents were edited and photographed by Yukio Futagawa, with text by Bruce Brooks Pfeiffer.
These volumes are no longer in print. As far as I know, a single edition was published, available hardbound or paperbound.
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Rood
Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Posts: 423 Location: Goodyear, AZ 85338
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Were not the same Eaglefeather drawings also published in the January 1938 Architectural Forum ... the issue devoted to the work of Frank Lloyd Wright? It's one issue I don't have, alas, but I swear they are there ... perhaps in several fold-out pages?
Does anyone know?
At any rate, the issue should be available in the collection of any large library ... city, university ... . |
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Roderick Grant
Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 3943
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| 1938 is too early for Oboler. It's in the 1948 Forum, page 99, two plans and two perspectives. But if KKubesh prints SDR's images, all else he needs is a plan of the ground floor. |
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Paul Ringstrom
Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 2219 Location: Mason City, IA
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Michael Miner's new film Romanza has quite a few images of the refurbished Obler property along with the information that the building to the right of the entrance will be built (not Eaglefeather). He said it was called "Continuation." |
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Macrodex
Joined: 12 Sep 2010 Posts: 103
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Pfeiffer's Frank Lloyd Wright Design: The Sketches, Plans, and Drawings [2011] has a perspective and the drawing of the section; as well as a sketch by Wright of a perspective and original plans. |
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SDR
Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 8022 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't found a lower-level floor plan. In addition to what I posted, Monograph 6 also contains a pencil perspective and two sheets showing three elevation drawings, a larger-scale section drawing, and a romantic color-pencil perspective, apparently incomplete, which seems to incorporate at least one image of the full moon . . .
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SDR
Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 8022 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the night-view rendering. Note the interior lighting spreading a glow on the underside of the deck. This drawing is presented in Monograph 6, at a somewhat cooler color temperature. If the blank circle at the right, in the unfinished (?) portion of the sky, is the moon, I'm not sure what to make of the rounded shape in the heavens to the left . . .
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JimM
Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 1070 Location: Anacortes, WA
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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EF lower plan from the 1948 Forum......
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Rood
Joined: 30 Oct 2010 Posts: 423 Location: Goodyear, AZ 85338
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, the lower floor, if we except Oboler's private hideaway below the master bedroom. It's shown but not identified on one of the sections. |
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